In case you haven't heard the news, season 1 and 2 of Nanoha has been licensed in the US. Because the yanks don't believe that there are any other countries in the world with internet capability (the authorities over there at least...), both season 1 and 2 has been taken down from the board. People who don't live in America get to bathe in the bullshit of America dictating how the world turns, once again.
This has been posted because I've noticed several people are unaware of the situation.
Ijou~
It's been licensed for a while now. I thought you guys didn't care about licenses. I hoped you didn't, anyway...
Well, I feel the same as you. I'm glad I don't live in America! My country is not at all strict with stuff that concerns anime. Heck, a local TV network even used a fansubbed episode of Naruto and aired it on national TV, complete with subtitles and local dubbing!
Just out of curiosity, are the staff members of DGz not Americans?
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After that they ask: Why is the terrorist after us ??
Seem like they didn't realize they are annoying the entire world
Legally it's a copyright violation even if there isn't someone outside of Japan who holds the licenses, it is just seen as too expensive to go after people on the other side of major oceans.
The reason most English lang subbers stop after licensing, is because some American companies are willing to sue, and to honestly support the R1 release in some cases, but such differs from group to group
Based on industrial power, China makes the world turn these days. The US just acts like we're still at the top, but if we shaped up our act a bit and stopped being a certain nation's attack dog and rebuild our domestic production, we could return to our peak, and maybe move beyond it.
-Gabe, bitter son of a Detroit autoworker (fricken outsourcing)
If you are willing to foot the bill of any court and legal fees I may have as a result of hosting copywritten material and to support my livelihood when I lose my job due to possible criminal charges.... you get the picture.
Stop complaining. Oh, and America is NOT the only country with stiff copyright laws. Japan is pretty harsh itself.
Anyway, due to our willingness to cooperate with the anime industry over here, we have a sort of live-and-let-live relationship going on between subbers and companies.
Does this mean I like the anime industry over here? Not really. They do a crappy job of encoding and dubbing and overcharge for it.
But your complaining only sounds like some non-American complaining about how we American subbers aren't providing you with FREE entertainment. Start your own non-American group, have a ball, and host them yourself.
Katz stop confusing everyone with lies.
Both the first season and A's still ARE up on the tracker. Not the scarywater one, the other one. And for the record JJS is the only american amongst our staff (no idea where our new translator is from).
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My bad var, I was talking about the fact that the downloads section at the top of this page no longer has the first two seasons. I also notice it doesn't have the 3rd season eps for some reason, but the first two seasons aren't even mentioned anymore.
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Oh for crying out loud, I know all about the copyright law bullshit, hell I did a class on it. And to make a point, copyright's worst in Australia because of some shitty loophole that claims that we technically cannot legally own an ipod, or any other MP3 player, which includes mobile phones.
And to back up what Var said, JJS is the only American in this group that we know of.
There ARE some fan sites that still have MGLN & A's for (Direct) downloading, but you'll have to do some detective work (and some serious Googling) to find 'em. I've heard that some sites use the excuse (and potential loophole) that 'They're not licensed in the UK, France, Germany... [insert country of your choice here] yet'.
Actually in Japan, it takes too long to process a copyright lawsuit because the courts have to gather the evidence themselves (for civil cases I gather), unlike most countries.
Also the recording and dissemination of broadcast episodes isn't a crime there. So from a Japanese point of view, they are not doing any wrong.
The Berne Convention says otherwise, but who actually knows the Convention exists?
The copyright doesn't exist for the artist, it exist for the company that produce him since the artist in the first place want to be read, seen, listened... and the company want money.
If a artist do stuff just for money then it's not a true artist.
That doesn't mean a artist can't accept money !
My point of view !